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01 Eugene Hale: Introduction

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Interview · North Dakota · Eugene Hale

Themes: Land & stewardship, Language & revitalization, Kinship & family, Storytelling & oral tradition, Education & learning, Listening & observation, Children & young people, Humor & play, Self-determination & leadership, Intergenerational learning

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New transcript-based questions created with AI assistance using Scott Simpson’s Learn About and Learn From guide.

Learn About questions

1. How did Eugene Hale's great-grandmother contribute to his upbringing and knowledge of family history? 2. What movements between Nebraska, Montana and Canada does he recall through family stories? 3. How does he describe maintaining a relationship with his great-grandmother after her death?

Learn From questions

1. Which family stories help me understand journeys or disruptions that shaped my life? 2. How might I preserve a relative's memories while acknowledging details I do not yet understand? 3. What practices help me remember someone whose care continues to influence me?

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01 Eugene Hale: Introduction

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My name is Eugene Hale then I found out there wasn’t my real name it’s Lawrence Eugene Louis what it’s heels in there raised with heel so they’ve been using heels all my life till this lately once more I put the Winston man you know my grandpa’s name was a Fred Lawrence he passed away years ago Josie Lawrence is grandpa anyway my grandpa’s wife was my great-great grandmother my grandmother’s mother and she raised me since I was a year old and she would tell me where originally where they came from and now she says there were assigned two Indians from down south Nebraska area so he come from Nebraska we and came up north and somehow we got involved in that Custer’s last stand thing and we took off it to Canada and I lived up there for a lot of years and when her daughter came down here her name was Jessie my grandma Jessie my mom’s mother and she oh no my great-grandmother moved on there’s because this man wanted to marry her a great-grandmother so he she keep donating but married a guy named Fred Lawrence then later years her daughter came down Jessie my mother’s mother and she uh she should tell me stories of what those what hard was that one day at one time and she said that were originally from Santee Nebraska’s or East scientists so that’s where we I guess was from Nebraska we came under way came we are way up towards north sir and I went had that uprising Don was a saw that Standing Rock where’s Custer was we were part of our tribe was there but when that happened they said they were going to kill me this is disability she heard they heard that they’re gonna kill all the Sood that were in that area they figuring that this was part of their demand so they took off north the first they went into Montana then he worked their way up into Saskatchewan and back into Manitoba and that’s where you stopped and didn’t place called so Valley October and then later in years she uh she moved down here my great-grandmother she married this man named Fred Lawrence here then her daughter came down later and girl Jessie my mother’s mother and she got married here to my grandpa’s name was Henry further then he was mr.Doing pretty good till he started drinking and started he was abusive so my grandma left him and she moved to Montana she moved the way she wants to get far as the way she can it was from her husband but and sometimes they’re they one day to day uh and said she was a Canadian my grandmother and my great-grandmother they’re reaching from Santee Nebraska what day so my grandma Jesse D major uh the coat American citizen and she said I am I was born here when she said my mother took me north so what anyway what really happened was she was born in Canada and she had a brother but he passed away and then when my grandma moved on back down here and then my great-grandmother she was a them days you know they don’t like the ask for somebody for some person for a woman to get murdered too and they ran into my great-grandmother she was her husband passed away and so she moved down here she married this guy named Fred Lawrence and she lived here for a lot of years and then she had what she had two children it was my mother’s mother and her son her son stayed up in Canada and then uh anything was Thomas might or might old means a bear or yeah bear and the gun was her name was Moki elephant more savelii and her mom was married to a monkey that’s her grandma’s name was monkey then after she moved on over here then she will Bekele here a good time with her and she uh my grandma had my mother and to add the once they’re gone now with felted America you know my mother had me I wasn’t for first child and my mother would want to work that try to support me and I saw was a great gun with a raised me since I was a year old said though she said about a year or Juanita will hit you - she said what a year old and she saw hurried you since then so serious until there came over her where she passed - I think is 71 but she was a nurse was 91 years old but anyway she used to tell me stories from a long time ago she shared a lot of it some of it I forgot to uh she told me that when they moved on here she said that this man wanted her to marry her so she married just Fred Lawrence what she should tell me stories about a long time ago and I remember some of those stories and she said that we were never really one place at one time we stayed there maybe a couple of days that we move on to another place or yeah kept away from the enemy she said the enemy people and now did you move a different place that stay there till they have a Scouts also and they all said the keep the camp and then watch the tokenism in the enemies you know the enemy’s company and one of the cause of I could tell them that enemy’s coming like the cruel and Cheyenne or different tribes they were and so they uh they were get ready to a fight and get cheated or the Calvary would be coming any you know enemies would feel that there was an enemy we will travel again take off and so we worked our way up to was at would keep from Yankton we came up north into from sanchita Brasco and South Dakota there when that was going on that so you know what actually would not only want not that Custer’s last cent it was other that was between different tribes we fought again so we kind of worked their way we want so keep this lady went towards the west northwest and to for tech Montana and then like a great-grandmother she my great-grandmother hurt her seventy went that direction did she came up in district sit with her dot her daughter’s she had her daughter here but she was no one tells Kennison she has her daughter’s in Canada then later in years and it came back down here because most of the relatives are here and uh you know I didn’t then with that who dead some why I ran into my mom and that’s where I became part of that my dad say they’re from Fort Peck Assiniboine Sioux tribes and that popular area Montana and from there day we did some years leader a gramophone out that was already toward Edna’s family she said but it’s a long ways apart so it’s okay she said so whether you know as I said we say that it’s we try to break your mom and your dad up but I couldn’t so we just let that go and then my grandma said a lot of times where they would uh you know stay steel pot nights even to kids or they were traveling and she said do it they’re not her but she was just a girl too so she did they’ll go into the trees worse they didn’t really bring any failure because it causes attention and things come around like enemy people and uh so it would which have all over heck we went all the way they wound up north into Canada way up north and we and then I also found out we have I have relatives up there in that area we have north but distant relative but they did know about her my family so they then they moved into a Sioux Valley where they stayed and my mom my dad my grandma was my mom’s mother was born there that she moved down here would way and married my yeah my grandpa here I just from there they had kids but I was told at the you know there was always a scout out there someplace watching you for the enemy people to come around to come around they run back in each other how the camp and then to shut down turn off on me go out the fire put out the fire and go sit wait if they any would come by or attack Dara was ready for or fight against the other it would be enemy but sometimes I run into another tribe a band of Susan to get along and enjoy each other so that girl was a putt he’s Santi that’s my party Santi then my dad said the Dakota the whole head I said one but sure was said the one holy and uh what my dad said we’re not holy it’s the worst cinema or suicide all right I talked to my dad a few times well last few years those of my dad and he lost him at all oh he had a heart attack had a bad heart my mom she was Bert we married Derek she’s married to a guy named for lasting first no and she divorced him and married another guy he’s name was closed last funny to me there was a Chuck comes to us and her her first her second husband was name was Ray no first and so they and we did I could get on with my stepdad because he was uh he didn’t like me because I wasn’t his child you know we had brothers and sisters only got one brother not they’re all gone except I’m the oldest but one brother there he was uh Verna Dean first and then I got a half-brother here he was raised up and graphs an area here he was adopted I won’t give him up when the day he was born she gave him away but I grew up alone with my great-grandmother no I enjoyed her the life that she gave me he or she cheated I got her own child she even helped me cry with me and whenever tonight something make Snickers something they won’t cry and she’ll cry with me so I had a pretty good life with her you know she enjoyed and I think water sometimes and see a few woods you know we’re in the smudge I say a few words to her talk to her tell her how much I miss her and all that you know just you know just to give myself to feel better again things like that you know and but she said we when I was up there was I was ready all the time there was always like procedures a Scout ought to sitting out there waiting for a different tribes that kinda creamy and would you play or other bands of people who from upstairs attack or our group and then they then they put us in the area call us at Sioux Valley and then after that there my gosh grandma Jessie she moved back down she moved on here she her dad was someone Canada I name was the buck Destin was Moki and I’m lucky I was at the yeah I was lucky and then oh and then some years later she moved back she moved on here and then my mom said my mom but her daughter and my grandma she had done three children my mother and then she had a sister named Olivia and the youngest one Jeannette copper loss she married a good name covered though from Maddog and then the gum was my mother whether it was married to a feather here didn’t know my mother was born during there was a dog that a doctor name was uh Olivia she went about Lawrence I don’t know who made me a real medium was as she went by Lawrence it soars except for the young one Jeanette feather shown by her mom’s name my dad’s name but I did exempted people there you know I’m the one who’s left out my family oh I got it a couple of cousins were there they were born here I was born in Montana my mother went to Montana moved up there and then that’s or why his she met my dad she moved into with her dad her mother she did with Tim and then I was born and my yeah my dad it was just inhale you’re her mother his mother was a Agnes Hale I forgot to her maiden name I love these names I forget again at times or forget names I could I can’t remember right away with a couple of hours later I remember was a her name was Agnes Hale and whether my grandpa’s name was it was the Indian name but anyways he’s always name is Francis Hill but he had an Indian name Yahweh long did this know why that and then didn’t he had four kids I think horrified kids but only one of them I know was my dad my dad was he’s a second olds there’s one older than him but he passed away and his brother younger in the image it was Mervyn there was a Mathilda yes it was form all together but anyway they’re originally from Santee Nebraska history came from and let us say what the tribe D got me down as a society so Chi su but you got me not dollars for the double six suits right because I was born here enough well Antonio sleek and what had me you know my life my grandma’s life what she said was we never highly sleep she says why do we travel where I was on a run because of the enemy toka she called toka there’s always somebody out there watching chief Jersey a different tribe would coming I don’t know how they knew it was a different tribe but they maybe they gave me or how the gesture that Saudi and when they seemed comedy and to go into the treasonous thing until it so they’re gone or never been a Sioux tribe come by her you know you get along like that says I guess they did a hard time would de tries with even their own tribe the Sioux tribe because there was some debt to run renegades or whatever they’re only after children they stole children and raised him and saying that these are my kids and they wouldn’t teach her the language should them even though they’re soon teaching a jerky or jib wore a different tribe language that was that was happening back in the day you know there was one thing deal with did these school children from other tribes are until kill them all or that saw that she was telling anyway so in any way did she that’s how we lived so we still hide all time and steena and the trees

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