Interview · South Dakota · Vanessa Iverson
Themes: Education & learning, Culture & continuity, Listening & observation
New transcript-based questions created with AI assistance using Scott Simpson’s Learn About and Learn From guide.
Learn About questions
1. What fears does Vanessa Iverson hear from non-Native teachers about teaching the OSEU?
2. How does she describe compassionate listening and setting aside defensiveness?
3. Why does she see examining one's biases and working with a liaison as useful starting points?
Learn From questions
1. What fear makes me hesitate to learn or teach something unfamiliar?
2. How often do I plan my reply instead of listening to understand?
3. What support or relationship could help me approach an unfamiliar cultural topic with care?
Transcripts
Increasing our Comfort Level
Watch this interview on YouTubeIncreasing Our Comfort Level - Vanessa Iverson
I have some teachers who are fearful of coming across the wrong way, whether it be not
quite understanding our culture, and then saying the wrong thing, or otherwise just not
feeling comfortable at all teaching it because, you know, I've had lots of people say, well, I'm
not Native so I don't know how to teach it, or I'm not Native and I don't feel comfortable
teaching it. So that's probably been one of our biggest obstacles, is getting teachers to feel
comfortable if they are not Native to be able to implement the understanding in their
classroom.
And so, you know, one of the things I try to tell them is that if we can go in with an open
heart and an open mind, and we are gentle and we put our defenses aside, anything can be
talked about. And whether that means we don't have a solid background on the topic, we
can still listen. And if we compassionately listen without always having to think what we're
going to say next, that's how we're going to accomplish stuff. And so that's how we've had
to try and approach it with the teachers, starting there.
Just getting them to learn about themselves and their biases, and how they can implement
the understandings within themselves, just simply that way. Because there's so many
underlying things in them, just simple things like learning to listen, being kind to others, and
then the cultural stuff can just flow. So that's probably one of the biggest things, if I can give
any advice to schools who are struggling with implementation, or maybe they're dominantly
a white school, getting them to come from a place of understanding first.
Because if you go right in with trying to, this happened, this happened, this happened,
obviously our defenses go up. So we have to learn ways to approach it gently, and have a
liaison, someone who can talk gently, someone who can come from both perspectives in
the beginning, instead of just one-sided.
Source materials
Transcripts from supplied documents and the current WoLakota source pages. Text preserved as published.