Interview · North Dakota · Charles Moran · NDNAEU 2 · NDNAEU 5 · NDNAEU 6
Themes: Land & stewardship, Kinship & family, Identity & belonging, Storytelling & oral tradition, Education & learning, Treaties & sovereignty, Culture & continuity, Children & young people, Humor & play
Learn About questions
What does it mean to say that “Children are being educated to be Americans?” How does it impact communities on the reservations?
How does education change fighting from weapons to words and paper? What is the impact?
What treaties have impacted native communities on Fort Berthold?
What are some examples of broken treaties and promises on Fort Berthold?
How was electricity created in Elbow Woods?
How did the timeline of the flooding of the Missouri River impact the people who lived there?
What does Charles mean when he says, “It wasn’t a ‘white’ thing, it was a ‘governmental’ thing.”
How has this governmental decision continued to impact the people in this area?
In what ways did this series of events create a lack of trust among the people living on or near Fort Berthold?
Learn From questions
What does it mean to me to be an “American?” How does it impact my identity?
How does my family view education? What role does formal education play in my life? Are there ways I am educated in non-formal ways?
Have I ever experienced a broken promise from the government? (at any level…local, state, federal) How did this broken promise impact me?
Is there a culture or race that my family or I have been “at odds” with? What caused the division? Does the division still exist?
Transcripts
NDNAEU 2, 5 & 6 "It Was a Governmental Thing" with Charles Moran
Watch this interview on YouTubeOur children are being educated within with the intent to be Americans and that was probably the downfall of the US government because once these kids become Americans and they become lawyers they become these doctors they come it’s changed from fighting with weapons to fighting with words and paper and there’s been a lot of broken treaties a lot broken promises I remember them telling our stories when I was a boy and that we lived in a log house and there was a pot-bellied stove in a living room and a wood stove in the kitchen and there was uh add-ons to the log house I had no running water just electricity and no heat but they promised them when they brought him up on top and they were gonna flood that area that deprived the government US government promised them free electricity a free hospital and a few other things I don’t remember but nice to know that ever came to pass the only place that had electricity at that time when they flooded that area was Elbe woods and my old friend and father-in-law Norman the late Norman Baker would tell me about him going to school in Nava woods and they would go get coal on the other side of holiday in wagons and horse-drawn horse and they would go get coal and they would come back with that coal in stock and under the school when there was a big wind windmill that generated electricity through the wind into batteries and they would take them batteries and they would take him over to the school into the hospital and those are the only communities that had electricity at that time and that was in 1950s when they flooded it was they started working on the dam in 1964 or sit 46 excuse me 1946 and they were moving dirt already the people at two-hit artist annuitants honest people didn’t know nothing until almost 1950 by 1953 they were arguing the government the core of what I mean engineers at that time and there were trills trying to fight it by 1953 they were moving by 1956 it was water was up and I was born in 1964 and as a boy I can remember like in 69 70 72 when I was real tiny I can remember the water still down to where it is that today so I raise another than probably another 20 feet since I was a boy and right around the fort bridge area that’s probably about a hundred feet deep so and that’s kind of like closer to the mouth by the Missouri River so that wad there’s a lot of water there and they knew everything how much water they were gonna take or how much land they were gonna take with water they would ask those old people would ask these guys that were walking along the hillsides way up there what are you guys doing oh we’re surveying this is gonna be where the water is gonna be and they couldn’t understand that how high that water was gonna be I had an uncle well I guess he’d be a Gunkel and a cousin that worked on the bridge the old forebears bridge the one that came from Alba woods they couldn’t understand why that bridge was so high you know why he went up that high because santosh was right there right around the corner and you know there was this two trail to a small river trout trail you could throw a rock across it how wide the river was at that time you go to the where the for bridge bridges today it’s nine tenths of a mile just short of a mile yeah so and it didn’t it just didn’t hurt the Indian people also the ninety people that lived along the river like Garrison and that area too or by Beulah and yeah so it hurt them ones too over there same way so I always tell that to the kids you know that it wasn’t a white thing it was a governmental thing and you shouldn’t you shouldn’t be so hard on the non-indian people the thing we talked about trust you know the trust things how I we don’t trust that’s probably one of the reasons
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