Interview · North Dakota · Patricia Christensen · NDNAEU 5
Themes: Land & stewardship, Kinship & family, Identity & belonging, Storytelling & oral tradition, Education & learning, Healing & resilience, Food & plants, Children & young people
Learn About questions
How does learning about life long ago help us today?
Why are artifacts from long ago, especially our own family important? How can they help us?
What is a “sunka”?
What is a “sunka wakan”?
How did they get these names?
Learn From questions
Do I know about my family’s history? What things do I know?
Do I have any items that belonged to my ancestors? What are they and why are they important to me?
How does hearing about and seeing artifacts from the times of my ancestors impact me?
Transcripts
07 Patricia Christensen: How Horses Came to Be
Watch this interview on YouTubeThat was a fairy tale yeah I shouldn’t have told it but there’s no outside but red stars are the stories you know how her grandma said he traveled all over there’s no skate stone but they traveled all over where there is apples and or like we have that stuff here too but there was all over different kinds of fruits and they discovered salt and dead yellow rocks that was gold they didn’t know what it was because it didn’t mean anything to them all kinds of different you know things that they’d rather you know was seeing or was there or seen it or boiling water you know all those things you know she’s the tell grandma where they were and at that time there was no States but when grandma told my grandma went to school she remembered what day you know so she said well that was have been like where there’s goats running around on the hit on the mountains and that’s how they got them and made my grandma we still have that my kids up my cousin’s got she’s put that away it’s a horn of our goat and they made that to attend hide and they put she put every time they did a tepee they made a teepee they made the holes in there’s 1300 holes and that’s as far as they made teepees would you know buffalo hide so they’re searching the whole cinder and then so she was when she died she passed on and so after that 13 no one’s ever made a teepee with it there you know her my god I always wondered about the cuts are so heavy you know that that hide it’s really heavy even with his canvas to put up a tea pee-yew notes i said oh my god with that buffalo hide and sewing them all together how how that would be so heavy the women carried and put them up you know I said how’d they ever do that but anyway the dogs did all this so they got a hold of a hold of horses and there’s a story Jellyman tolya told us this morning to the children we had this camp this summer and he came from Canada he told us about how to store how they got the horses there you know they’re there when they were camping how the horses came about and they came from there cause shunka Wakan our horses and a dog is called suka so when the whole the whole tribe was camping and then they ran out of food so then the two men were gonna the older chief told them to go and get food because everybody was there was no more food so and he said take the two dogs with you he said take the two shunka with you and go get food you know so those two left and they were going and going and going looking for food pretty soon um they had to rest and they didn’t find any food so they got her just going here just old man stopped him and asked him where they were going and he told him they were looking for food and he said here he said I’ll help you he said there’s these two dogs he when he put he was putting stuff on who’s dropping stuff on them like that and here those dogs were getting bigger and bigger and bigger and that’s hardly became horses that’s how they’re banned I mean their tribe got those horses so those dollars of shunga so when the team horses there should go back are no sacred dogs so anyway that’s that’s a story I really like that story he told that to our kids this summer and a cap we had kept and read there was horses there he came down for he equine Erza - he came down for that he’ll have the kids work with the horses and it was really different I never seen that before but these horses the one horse went to one of the young girls we were while studying in a circle and here that was strange he went to her and he rubbed his head all over her head and he’s smelling her feet coming all the way down in here he said he was healing her so you know they healed these horses they’re kashtanka waka so then I thought about that again you know I don’t know she was on her phone while he was doing that so she said he was healing her she was sick but she probably didn’t know it she was a young girl so I don’t you know what wonder why that happened or what but that’s all he said she was doing her no she’s like she was a shy you know she’s had her head down all time and was on the phone so I was telling that to my older cousin she said well you know people know these things you know all our native people are psychics they don’t know it you know if they don’t know it that they’re psychics and they know do you know something happens they get scared they just scared of it and so they forget it you know think they’re crazy you know so she said maybe he did the horse did heal her if she was sick you know because I you know I never seen that before but anyway he’ll be down again just coming April or me he’ll be he’s from Canada but he’s he works with horses probably talks at him too because he was always you know and that crowd with him well we brought the kids there so I thought that was something different I’ve never seen but this is what horses men I was thinking they told us that story the horses are they’re the ones that did all the work you know carry things and stuff and with him you know what the story he told us that says shunka Wakan you know and I thought that was really nice that one hearing that’s how they got their name the horses she’ll go akka but I like that story so I wrote it down I wrote it all down tell my grandchildren great-grandchildren John story that I really like that story
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